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"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
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Would something like this be minimally acceptable ? I have a few inexpensive firearms that are all for defense/utility purposes; not a lot of value. And some cash and a few electronics.
For Sweden
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02/06/2020 at 13:28 |
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That would certainly keep kids out. I would want more protection against thieves.
haveacarortwoorthree2
> For Sweden
02/06/2020 at 13:31 |
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I would want more protection against thieves.
That’s what the guns are for! lol
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For Sweden
> haveacarortwoorthree2
02/06/2020 at 13:33 |
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-_-
TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 13:39 |
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That’s not a safe, that’s more of a security locker. Good for keeping firearms out of the hands of kids, but not good at preventing theft and or fire protection.
You’ll have to go to around $ 500 and more to get an actual safe.
HammerheadFistpunch
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02/06/2020 at 13:44 |
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I need to get me one of these. My solution now is a cheap muzzle lock and storing them offsite.
Thomas Donohue
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02/06/2020 at 13:46 |
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Well, now that they’ve put a copy of the key up on the internet, I’d say it’s a no go. Everyone has the key now!!!!
Tripper
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02/06/2020 at 13:46 |
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Like a lot of things I researched gun safes into oblivion. My dad and I were shopping at the same time. He spent a lot and got a super nice super secure safe. Then he had a really difficult, expensive time finding someone to deliver it and get it into his basement.
I decided on a relatively small fire rated filing cabinet. I removed all of the working parts from the rifles and put them in the safe. The rest of each gun is locked in its individual case. Then we have a small twin pistol safe.
SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
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02/06/2020 at 13:48 |
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You can compare with the Harbor Freight offerings, in basically the same price range. Those have electronic locks.
None of them will stop a determined thief with an angle grinder and some time.
Overall, floor safes are better for handguns and cash and the like, especially as they are easier to conceal.
This does look like reasonable value-for-money, but mainly for keeping the kids out, not robbers with time-and-tools.
Notchback88
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02/06/2020 at 14:23 |
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As a lot have noted, it’s enough to stop
young
kids. Anything older than 13 or 14 and determined to get in, probably will.
If you’re worried about thieves, and/or your guns getting on the black market and ending up being used in a crime - you need a heavy duty safe that is bolted into your foundation.
jimz
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02/06/2020 at 14:26 |
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if kids are in the household, I’d really feel better about something with a combination lock. Keys can be found.
MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
> haveacarortwoorthree2
02/06/2020 at 14:31 |
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“Can you just hold on for one second with your thieving? I’ll be right back, I just need to go get my guns.”
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> SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
02/06/2020 at 14:40 |
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Kind of my thinking. And then there’s the thing of the safe costing as much as the guns inside of it, though someone out doing mayhem and death with your firearm is not a good thing.
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haveacarortwoorthree2
> MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
02/06/2020 at 14:45 |
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Well, I assumed he had a holster and always carried at least one weapon at all times. Remember, I am from Texas. :)
Fuckkinja
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02/06/2020 at 15:02 |
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If you are the tin foil hat type get a combination lock with no back up. Nobody can force you to open a combination lock. With a key or a handprint a warrant gets them in.
With any safe make sure the door locks with multiple locking bolts. Anti prying.
Add a dehumidifier and a small heat source to prevent rust. I use a strip of led lights. In the summer I have to oil everything bi weekly.
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> Notchback88
02/06/2020 at 15:45 |
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And doing that will make for a fun project.
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> jimz
02/06/2020 at 15:46 |
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That, too. We raised three kids with guns in the house and the guns were always in a safe with a combo and they never had any idea how to open it.
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> Fuckkinja
02/06/2020 at 15:47 |
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I’m going to start looking on CL/FB regularly.
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Fuckkinja
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02/06/2020 at 16:02 |
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Some porn for you. I call it the wall safe.
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> Fuckkinja
02/06/2020 at 18:32 |
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That middle one looks almost like it could be a Mini-14. A friend is going to sell me his Mini-14 in 5.56, but I need a place to safely store it first.
GLiddy
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02/06/2020 at 20:30 |
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In a safe or residential security chest, what spending more gets you is time. Practically no safe will stand up to a criminal that has hours to work on it. The money/time calculation is up to you. This little metal cabinet is going to be about the lowest protection you can get. It will offer minimal protection from theft and no protection from fire. Pricier gun safes (which really aren’t safes) sold at big box sporting good stores aren’t really that great as a thief with a prybar can get into most of them without much trouble. They may protect what is inside from a small fire for a short period of time, but no protection from a fully involved house fire. Almost no gun safe will do that for you. Get a sprinkler system if you want fire protection.
Whatever you buy, even the cheapest cabinet is no good if the thief can just take it with them. Bolt it down or bolt it to the studs in the wall at least. When you do bolt it, if it is a light gauge cabinet, use large washers or metal strips on the inside to keep the bolt heads from pulling through the holes if pried on. If you do get a better safe, bolt it to the floor. Even the heaviest safe can be tipped up enough to toss some golf balls under and rolled away. (Thats how I moved my #300+ safe around my basement.)
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> For Sweden
02/06/2020 at 21:17 |
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fill the bottom with lead
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> GLiddy
02/07/2020 at 00:14 |
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I appreciate this reply. The part about the fire especially. I can assure you that if my house got reduced to rubble, there would be pieces of rubble still bolted to this safe. Or chest, or whatever. I am not convinced that a good stout chest would not be adequate for my needs.
Hamtractor
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02/07/2020 at 11:00 |
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There’s really three kinds of “gun safes”.
1) Gun Cabinet: T hese are geared almost completely towards securing your guns from kids in your house. Zero fire protection, super basic keyed or touchpad lock system. A sawzall, grinder or prybar will defeat these in about four minutes. It’s not much more than a stand-alone locker, you assemble them yoursel f usually.
2) Gun Safe - Inexpensive: Built a little more like a safe or vault, with double-walled construction, usually fire-resistant, the material between the double walls is usually concrete-ish, the locking mechanism will be at least two rods, combination unlocks the rods, and a wheel or handle actually slides the rods in and out of the locked position. These are the most common, and usually work well enough for the average gun owner. When bolted down to the floor or structure, makes theft of contents pretty difficult and time consuming. Still accessible via sledgehammers, grinders, etc, but require a bit more brute force and/or skill with power tools to access. Heavy, not easy to move
3) Gun Safe - Legit: These run into the thousands of dollars, but are actual safes. Heavy gauge steel, double or triple wall construction. Multiple axis locking bars made of boron steel or other high-strength alloy. Double or triple-redundant combination dial, keypad, biometric and/or key access is common. Will resist temperatures in excess of 1000 degree Fahrenheit for up to two hours. Access without heavy duty power tools, cutting torches or explosives is difficult at best...
Then there’s my gun vault from my old house in Colorado: Took a large industrial breaker panel from a remodel job I did (it was a 60 slot panel that fit between 24in stu d walls, and was five feet tall, four inches deep). Mounted in the garage, with hinges installed on the panelboard, and no guts in the panel itself. When the door was opened, it looked just like an actual electrical panel, breakers and all. But it fit four long guns and several pistols easily. Keyed access to the panel itself, but that was just to keep the lazy out. Once in, they would find a regular-ass breaker panel. I thought it was cool, and the guy who bought the house loved it.
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> Hamtractor
02/07/2020 at 11:48 |
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This is the one I’m leaning toward. A big part of what you’ve written has to do with people being unable to steal what they cannot discover. Keep out the lazy and the curious.
I think the safe in the link looks like a reasonable middle-of-the-road choice. And the bolting down will be fun...
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> GLiddy
02/07/2020 at 11:51 |
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This is the one I am considering. Seems like a middle-of-the-road, relatively inexpensive option.
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> Fuckkinja
02/07/2020 at 11:51 |
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So, is that a Mini-14?
How do you like this safe?
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Fuckkinja
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02/07/2020 at 12:07 |
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That safe is perfect.
Left savage 338 lapua. Middle sks norinco. Right 308 savage. All affordable rifles with good optics. Range toys. I have a 450 yard range at home.
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> Fuckkinja
02/07/2020 at 12:26 |
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Hamtractor
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02/07/2020 at 16:17 |
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That’s a pretty good middle-of-the-road safe. It will totally do what you’re wanting it to do. We’re going to put something very similar in when we move into our new house this fall. Not for guns though, we don’t have any guns ever since they were lost in that damned boating accident...
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> Hamtractor
02/07/2020 at 16:50 |
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Boating accident? Did I know about that?
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Hamtractor
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02/07/2020 at 17:23 |
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I’ve never talked about here on Oppo, it was very tr aumatic. But if you visit any of the gun blogs and forums out t here, you’ll find that boating accidents are the number one cause of disappeared firearms. It’s apparently an epidemic... ;)
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> Hamtractor
02/07/2020 at 18:16 |
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I guess that would be the way to say you lost one if you ever did. I hope everybody pulled through okay.
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GLiddy
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02/07/2020 at 22:16 |
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That looks like a perfectly good gun safe for most peoples’ needs. Just make sure it’s large enough for your needs with a bit of room to grow. I found myself tossing lots of non-gun stuff in mine that I never really intended to.
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> GLiddy
02/08/2020 at 10:29 |
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Yes, I'm sure I will also. Thanks.